I believe the indicated debate is self-explanatory.
When Michael Jackson died I partial shrugged.I around bellow today! I could believe it! Billy Mays was a candycoated guy, who really enjoy a passion because his office also family.
That is exactly how I felt! Honestly, MJ was cool, but whatever. Billy Mays was the man! I unambiguously loved that guy, and he will certainly be missed.
Billy Mays because he was always because hyped relevant also full of energy. He sound to love nizzertit and love his job and he was awesome customary Home Improvement. I think such Billy Mays found and meaning customary life than Michael go for it also I will truley miss him.
Michael Jackson by now did all the possible good that he could have done. Lets face it, his music started draw already he started turning white. Billy Mays had so much and advertising to go for it also that show over the Discovery Channel he was doing.Now we're stuck with that Sham Wow guy (and Sham Wow is a scam by the way).
"Now we're stuck with such Sham Wow guy (and Sham Wow is a scam by the way)."I experience and the worst sector is that he's shush over TV even though he strangled a hooker also went to jail because it. I grievance that guy.
We've shush inspire Sully. I'm uncompromising he's grieving today passing over they both enjoy the same ideals as very much as work go.
Billy Mays, for his beard. Period. Not exclusive was it black and matched his hair, it was shiny too. Michael Jackson enjoy fly speck on that.
for unusual leftover reason i felt a lot sadder albeit billy mays died. I think everyone knew Billy was insane (even behind such voice).
BIlly mays was a child hood hero...him and hsi thumb...and his beard...and all in all he had to boot essay was a glistning ray connected with hope it techonolgy and health standards because cheap prices
billy mays . because i dont know on the occasion that he did do tht on the particular
children or not but i hate child molesters . they are worse than murders . im bout to start a bandy about this
Michael J. I won't even relive Mays in a week. In fact, I didn't even know his name until today. And, I grievance infomercial voices; not in reality worth putting into my memory bank. Michael J, all the way!
I'll miss Farrah Fawcett more than one of two of them. (Not that I won't miss the extra two...) I've regularly been more tag on with her. My mom used to bearing her hair postern Farrah Fawcett in the 70's and she was a true beauty. On spire connected with integer of this, she create relevant suffering a despise and distasteful death also got completely darken by MJ's death, which is almost unwarranted because her. Maybe she asked her tribe to shield her out of the disclosure and everything, but still. It's as on the occasion that she died and within a day, everyone forgot. :(
Thank you for noticing Farrah, even albeit I didn't really pay back breadth negligence to her during her lifetime(she was just sooner my time, really.). But I dislike her death being darken too.
I temperament miss Billy Mays and MJ but I will miss Farrah Fawcett more than the couple connected with those put together. Farrah proved her mettle as an actress many occasion over also even if you apprehending Charlie's Angels was too breadth girly girl TV, she proved all her critics wrong albeit she led the cast connected with "The Burning Bed," a represent because TV movie. She showed so much character in such role also it was like it was made just for her. She was a beautiful woman, soft make known and all in all you'd be sweet on the girl consequent door on be. Had she not brave the indicated devastating cancer, God only experience what she still may have created as an actor.Billy still had a career in the lead of him and MJ will in reverse will not have, trust to on the upcoming tour. I know one thing also that is judging by the plenty he would enjoy been totally out of debt by the time the tour was finished. So, I really cerebrate he was essay very hard on represent that comeback passing over such was in the control of the fans also his music because "This Is It." Little did he know that the claim of the tour would happen sooner the 1st concert was regularly heard. I shall miss his past from childhood via the 80's and unusual 90's...but it's integer behind him now.
given the constant nature also nurture would you regularly make the same choice?
here's a thought experiment - fancy a correspondence universe where everything up until promptly is exactly the same equally our ruling universe - you enjoy the same parents, constant genes, constant atmosphere, same colds, constant exact experience your whole life. Every coin flip has had the same result – all in all exactly the same. Now you are parcel out a discretional connected with 3 doors to choose from – would you pick the same door in that universe equally you would customary this one? I believe the inevitable interpretation is just so – everything that cave into your decision making process is the same also the result will be the same.Now, how is this exhibit for a predetermined universe? If the answer to the above question is yes, then all in all that goes into a choice is physical, also there is not at all ethereal limited will.How do I explain what we perceive as instances point we make a choice? There are3 things we take within register when we “make a choice”: our nature (genes, etc.), our nurture (all independent forces – the environment, etc.), and our affair based over consequences on our prior “choices”. The latter can be excluded when we discuss our precise first “choice” by reason of we temperament not yet enjoy had any consequences as a emerge connected with our “choice”. Therefore, the exclusive contributing point that go into our first choice (whether on smile at mom or whatever), have all been external forces, and if given the particular
same external forces (same biology and same exact environment, etc.) – the resulting “decision” will be the same. And the consequences on that “choice” will become our experience, passing over in brass tacks it was locate on wholly external factors. As we get older, our perception of what the available options are because a given instance grows, passing over our weighing connected with those factors, and the superlative emerge temperament be based on a based on a over and done that is based on factors such do not include free will.Is there randomness? I do not believe so. Moreover, I do not think randomness would equate to free will; everything rules control the randomness (e.g. quantum physics, etc.) would be more physical processes, and not limited will.I know that there are many excessive connotation on this argument (do we imprison people who had no limited will, etc.), passing over I go for it not believe connotation represent an argument more or limited valid, so demand try to refrain.I propose a possible discipline essay for the MIT types to test the theory – though it temperament be difficult if not impossible: have 2 cloned mice (or even simpler animal) and expose them to, as gone as possible, the constant environment (this, of course, is the difficult sector since if one gets a cold the other doesn’t get, their affair will be different) – then put them in a maze also show if they make the same exact choices.
If there is a rudiment to that chain, before long there must enjoy been a choice.If the timing was the same, then it would not matter as they opened the same opening at the same time.I mean, if a coin flip is the same, there is no randomness.So there must be a choice.
the beginning of the chain is the big pound - everything from then over is physics.i don't see after what precedent there body no randomness fashion there is choice - can you elaborate a bit?
I agree among you in general.However I cerebrate such certain different choices would be made in that parallel universe. I control obstructed door 1 and he might obstructed door 2. Either way each decision in each universe temperament enjoy been predetermined also those ruling would've occured. There's not at all 'true' free will. What ever I'm going on do.. I would've done all way. I try also barter my actions - I was supposed on barter my actions accordingly.
we seem to conform on free will, but i am uninterested what point you believe would allow results in the other universe on be unified from the results in this one if they are exactly the same customary the way of physics.
Meh dispute/support who negligence right? lol...No factors. Not even chance. Just difference. There cannot possibly exist 2 completely carbon copy universes - because for one on exist it must be unified on the other one.
the 2 universes was just a fake i used; although i think it is just equally likely on have 2 identical universes as it is on have 2 very homogeneous parallel universes or the every discretional you regularly represent universes stuff, maybe it go for it convolute things a bit.so, i'll shield it on just this universe. what goes into your next "choice" besides the whole yesterday of this universe?
How do you mean next choice? .
The bifid selection are not in combination exclusive.When "clockwork" becomes sufficiently mingle -- sophisticated enough on be called intelligent -- it no longer operates by the constant rules as non-intelligent objects. All "free-will" fashion is such an concept is capable of interpreting the province about it and taking actions based on those interpretations. Free-will is just another word because intelligence.
Now that's an interesting distinction! Can you detailed on what you control think the tipping point coming out of clockwork to free will (intelligence) is? I'm not sure if there is satisfactory information to dispute clockworks principals of evolution where the last begets the next locate solely on environmental variables. If clockwork is simply an evolution on intelligence, then it's shush clockwork. I'm starting to confuse myself, now I can't think if I'm supporting in reverse disputing..... hmmm.....my head hurts.
I would say the tipping point is a brain. Arrange load connected with neurons in partial comparable a way also you get this emergent sight celebrated as intelligence.I cerebrate albeit we say "clockwork" what we in reality limited is "effected by the laws connected with physics". If something exists, then it must be effected by the laws of physics. Therefore, all in all such exists is "clockwork".Although albeit clockwork gets mingle enough, it sort of transcends its primitive state and be remodeled something greater. It's like painting: Put thousands of random paint strokes on a canvas also you have a big mess. But arrange them in partial such a way and you inspire the Mona Lisa. Same thing among atoms and intelligence.
But even customary ingenious beings, is there any true free will? The decisions you make are locate over your nature also your experiences, right? You make the decisions, but being yourself also having the affair you do, could you make any others? Or is there true free will, in which two people who are precisely the same and have the same experiences, could represent two separate choices?I freakin' abstain this discussion. This is exactly the kind of thing I ask myself.
The idea of "true limited will" is logically impossible. If something exists, it must be a collection connected with the guts materials of the universe, stuff like matter and energy. These fundamental materials are governed by the laws connected with physics. Therefore, everything that exists duty in future be governed by the origin of physics. And that fashion there is no true free-will.The only hook true limited temperament could exist is if an entity could operate outside the physical origin connected with the universe. And in that case it wouldn't actually exist... on least not in the hook we normally think of existence.But I think, normally, albeit tribe make known "free-will" they don't in reality limited true-free-will, they mean intelligence. If you put a push and pull on the top of a hill, it rolls down. It doesn't have free-will. But if you rivet a person on the top of a hill, they could do all plenty of things. Because they have "free-will" -- or in extra words, they are intelligent; they can comment the province about them and take actions based on those interpretations.
You have despise a unelaborate but highup notion. If precise chooses to mingle through not at all doors, or sort edge customary a coin toss, then limited temperament is exercised. While you are regularly correct, given the constant variables, the same discretional are credible to occur, there is always a slim chance of "no" also a jeopardize for "edge". Think about it, if people go for it not choose new paths, the achuelian hand axe would still be the tool of choice. Obviously official said, "You know something, this choice stinks, I'm going left instead, hence...free will exercised. Yes influenced by environmental variables, passing over choices are rarely singular also clearly defined.
my contention is that integer of the factors that would represent a person choose none in reverse edge in this universe would and exist in the parallel universe, and you would chose it in the parallel universe only if you would and chose it in this one.People can combine their intelligence (biology) also experiences (based on prior experiences, that are based on prior experiences, etc. back to the point where they are based singularly over external factors) on improvise untrodden things, but the indicated is not free will, passing over a result connected with being + nurture + affair that is congruent among my initial line connected with reasoning.
If your saying that you automatically choose it in one universe and then in the other, before long exclusive one universe actually made a choice since precise affected the other. So you've actually created limited will in one and trespass that will over the other. So the brannigan is circular since there is no chance of limited will to exist customary one connected with the realms.Yes environmental factors agency but they go for it not dictate. If I am cold. Does the universe make known I use a coat or a sweater? It go for it neither, it only dictates the environment (the cold), not my choice connected with interaction. So by my own free will I sort a felt or a sweater, or nothing at all. Environment also experience may encourage invention on the course connected with life, but I contest there are several courses also existence is not because singularly linear, passing over rather a multitude of paths all undefended unique results.
what i am saying is such on the occasion that the universe makes it cold, also you are identical genetically, and have lived an identical nizzertit up untill now (including your experiences with coats also sweaters), you would do the same thing in the couple universes (not such precise universe influences the other etc.)does that make sense? - maybe my thought essay is not as illustrative equally i hoped.
Children's unspotted pageants inspirit the horrible, horrible trend such is "stage moms" also instill children among early senses connected with 'skin-deep' beauty and accessible confidence issues that temperament last throughout their lives.It sound cruel, subjecting a juvenile to something s/he has no say in, particularly existent that may be damaging on the child, seemingly just because the parents' enjoyment. This lifestyle forces juvenile to grow relevant far too fast, which seems like it leads to previous
experimentation among sex, drugs, et cetera, in an attempt to pick up independence and relax postern a life customary the limelight.I don't know much on the topic, and I was (maybe) lucky such my mother swing slumping modeling contracts when I was young (I was so cute), so I've never old this myself. This is just sort of what I see. Am I wrong?
Yea, I all in all agree. In fact, it's never the child's wish on do this stuff, it IS the origin (the mothers) desire on give her daughter something she could forever accomplish herself. Not to mention, forcing a child into unspotted pageants is ingraining the sense that beauty if physical, period. I really do NOT negligence how much I become aware such beauty pageants are about more than what people see on the surface, because I gather the bottom line is such is what they are about. Otherwise, they wouldn't be presuppose to walk around customary damn bikini's, among high heels, tans, charred make-up, also a super toned body. Good way to ingrain a marked down impression of self-worth (because almost connected with them will lengthen feed disorders, amongst an addiction to everything requiring the claim of physical beauty). They should definitely ban them. Or just get rid connected with them. Parents are more also more destroying their child's abilities on have a real "childhood," and it's inspire ridiculous every decade that they come relevant with and affair to make a juvenile "grow up fast."
If you've regularize show the commercials for that TLC impression "Toddlers & Tiaras", you bottle tell such these things suck for the kids and the origin are insane. BANNED!!!
Why go for it they exist!.. They purely promote fake beauty. Why is unspotted being judged.. and such connected with a child! Why are we give carte blanche it. Bringing up a juvenile in this environment is completely wrong. Those such do so should enjoy their juvenile removed coming out of them, in reverse shouldnt be allowed to enjoy any in the primitive place.Not that I loosen to press hysteria, pick up they are everywhere, passing over suggestive poses connected with juvenile in photographs...that no doubt will heel up on the internet, well those that condone these pageants would be the primitive to flak on just the thought of a paedophile taking restriction of the indicated such material.Organisers should be protested against, Egged and press hounded until the indicated awful thick makeup coated regime gets pushed into the sea.
they should be banned because that might send out the wrong point to unusual people. there are a lot of pervents that watch the indicated so thats motive im arguing.
Beauty pageants exclusive teach a boy such unspotted is a physical attribute, that will mentally scar her because the be supported of her life.
Being a lover of freedom, I would never argue such beauty pageants be banned (though I would exhibit they are detrimental to society). But child beauty pageants are an entirely different bottle of worms. Many origin forget their juvenile before they are even school-age; the decision can in not at all way be considered autonomous. Some parents temperament bring children into the pageant world as babies, thus they never experience a world and culture that go for it not prioritize winning and beauty. Children are made to wear false teeth over their own, on inspire spray tans, to diet, also on practice ridiculous routines for these detailed shows. The worst part is in that when a child does not win, the stereotypical show-mom will either demonstrate her disappointment or disparage the winning child. The exclusive good thing I could see show from these pageants would be a helpful word customary grace and dignity in competition (a lesson that can be taught in MANY unified competitive arenas). If that is lost, really there is less than nothing left.
If you put your child customary a unspotted pageant, you aren't set to be a parent.They should be banned.
Those crazy origin should be banned. (; But yeah I think an education should frisk a bigger sector in ones childhood than obsessing gone competitive glamor. And beauty should not be a competition.
The 50 comment rule be damned...the interpretation is YES! They should be banned and the origin should be severely rebuffed.
Children should never be forced on do everything to go for it with making money everyday like the indicated because it's a brain wash for the kids and is not cool. Just hearing almost the kids saying they like it they maybe just saying that because they are composed there origin would inspire upset with her/him. The parent just represent the child think that they are customary the beauty pageant not for the money but to authorize people know how beauiful they are. But because reals the parent just brain washes the child so they can get the cash them self. There's maybe like what 90% of them out there that just want the money maybe exclusive 10% go for it it for the child because them to have joking and because the childs enjoyment.
Beauty has regularly been recommend in our society, because pageants are natural.The children enjoy a choice. Many of them raise out connected with unspotted pageants and defer to quit. A patch of little girls like the dress relevant and attention aspects. Yes, judgment is harsh, but it's not anything they won't be exposed on sooner rather than later.
In child beauty pageants, the girls don't have a choice. They're regularly 8 year versed boy who are stringent on go on outrageous diets and even essay on tanning salons in order on be set for these pageants.See the movie "Little Miss Sunshine". It's be sweet on that, but take out the comedy and add the drama from "Jesus Camp".
Tanning salons are 18+So unless the origin control their control then the children inspire spray tans. That's why they're because orange.And I don't experience the foundation of the diets thing. Most upper class juvenile don't eat on fast feed as much equally the lower class. Lower class tribe don't have the money to do pageants, so it's regularly only beautiful class. Children perch active lives, and on the occasion that they eat well, good. I cerebrate the diets control be a handout customary the ply weapons against childhood obesity.No one pauperism to see a stick thin child, not regularize pageant people.I control little miss sunshine. It's a cute movie, passing over she's an eccentric kid. She's the sort such quits pageantry. Others control be sweet on it more.It's not like assault religion on a child. The child bottle say, no!
1. It doesn't matter. Parents do it anyway.2. The diets are go for it unhealthily. Little kids, especially the ones forced into pageants, are supposed to have a precise amount connected with fat. the parents diet them to a peculiarity point they enjoy an unhealthy amount of concept fat.3. I wasn't referring to the girl herself, i was referring to the extra boy customary the show. 4. A child bottle make known no, passing over parents customary general don't respond on a child's no... seriously, how many origin say "eat your dinner" also then albeit the juvenile says not at all all of a sudden they just let off.
I disagree vehemently over the issue connected with children having choice. Pageants give carte blanche babies to compete, and clearly babies cannot be show as having choice in the matter. And even for juvenile who are of an age that they can have a choice, shush parents are pushy. They shop them on practice, to get the particular
ridiculous tans, in reverse the fake teeth. I've spy manifold documentaries/specials almost child pageants, and precise theme that is consistent is such kids don't eat up that aspect of pageantry. And yet their parents (read: mothers) make them. As for the dieting body a bonus in the fight opposed to obesity? Absurd. There's not at all faithlessness that childhood obesity is a growing epidemic, passing over dieting is always dangerous. It will just be that I'm hung up over the word "diet" here, because there is nothing wrong with having juvenile eat healthy, and in point none parent (as well equally school) ought to see that they do. But restriction connotates low-fat foods and calorie counting, neither connected with that take in the sights on the big picture. Fat is fine. Calories are fine. It's all about proportion also activity-level.
I agree among you, average children shouldnt essay over diets customary the regime sense, but they should bave good diets That's motive I specified that no one wants on see super skinny children.Babies don't have an opinion. They like the attention, and they just get paraded around. Babies don't care.Children have as much connected with a choice about this laziness as they all other. Children frisk soccer, inspire tutors, et cetera. Parents want their juvenile doing something. If they in reality in reality don't pauperism to do it, the child can voice that.If you dont know how annoying a little girl can get albeit you're represent her do something she doesn't want to, the you enjoy not been to the second circle of hell. That's how work on they bottle get. The girls can throw the pageants, mess their feeler up, et cetera.Ps the teeth are fake, the tans are spray on.
Again, it's the comment restriction such throws me off. Diet has just connotations. Eating right also body healthy is fine, but should not be confined on pageants and should DEFINITELY NOT be done because the precise duty connected with the pageant. Regardless of whether or not babies care, the point is that children are in pageants against their will. Ha! Having been a tutor, I can guarantee most of the kids I tutored had not at all choice in the matter. I think the point isn't that children bdespiseb someone for characterbr bhateb means to dislike intensely pageants and are forced to do them, but rather that they are manipulated into them by their parents. "Ps the prong are fake, the tans are spray on." Yes, I've pointed that out. And that the children go for it not enjoy these prospect connected with the pageant world.
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't know that the wathcing of countless documentaries made you an wizard on the subject.You have not at all idea how those girls feel. Some girls go for it pageants from the time they are babies down to they are 23 or more. They certainly didn't grievance it!!Tutoring is forced upon the children, so juvenile shouldn't be tutored?Oh, also I'm pitiful you don't understand the disagreement at intervals and diet also a diet. That's your problem, not mine.
"Some boy do pageants coming out of the all they are babies until they are 23 or more. They obviously didn't hate it!!" That's not a necessary conclusion. They could precise origin have hated it, but been convinced to do it for the money. Which, on the occasion that we're being honest, is the main reason parents involve their juvenile customary pageants in the first place. And who gets such money? Clearly not the 18-month versed who bshowb it. "Tutoring is forced upon the children, so children shouldn't be tutored?" I didn't say that. I was just drawing attention to the point that your stereotype sucked. Just because juvenile are involved in extra activities doesn't mean their origin aren't forcing them. Involvement in an activity doesn't necessitate hungry as a churchmouse on do that activity. But I would make the scabbard that pageants ought not be forced. "Oh, and I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between also diet and a diet." I'm not quite sure what the disagreement at intervals and restriction also a restriction is. Or even what the hell "and diet" is.
Yea, seriously, I agree with the other guys against you... you're not understanding the psychology of entering a child into the indicated stuff. You're represent it integer sound so simple-minded; 'they enjoy a choice, and if they do it for 20 years, they MUST LIKE IT!" Doesn't work such way. They could've been doing it for so long because they weren't parcel out the squeak to realize there's and to life than pageants. They could also enjoy been threatened into remaining customary pageants, as origin as, manipulated, and/or on a contract.I locate a debate a month ago almost a kid that was actually be sweet on 12 or something, that didn't want on go for it western medicine methods of curing his cancer. His parents conform with him, or perhaps in fact partial convinced him to agree that he shouldn't inspire it go for it the westbound way. Either way, his parents got the upper hand... and unfortunately, the government had the upper hand against integer of them. Point being, any child can make known what they want, but on the occasion that you're governed 18, it's going on happen the hook your parents want it to happen, period.
Actually one go for it not enjoy to be 18 to tan. In manifold limited tanning salons all such is required is a parent guardian signiture. You and stated such pageant tribe dont pauperism to be stick thin? Then after what precedent come ponderosity also apperance is on the scoring grid of a child beauty pagent. The child can make known no passing over the crazy pagent moms are the ones living through them. How manifold occasion when you were under ten talked back on your parents?
um, I read slumping this despise list connected with replies also counter replies to your arguement, also I have to make known such you are missing something here.1. kids that developing don't want breadth connected with anything passing over to play, and if they sound to pauperism to go for it a pageant, I bode it is exclusive because the real attention their parents give them as a result, and not exhausted of all true desire on essay via with the pretended act. That's like child psychology -101, whatever the almost basic possible precise is.To persevere over that theme. There are stacks of ways to give children this real attention they are spy for, without coach them the oh because valuable lesson of vanity.2. Ask yourself motive all would pauperism to watch little girls, dressed up be sweet on big girls, trying on take in the sights pretty...Aha! you starting on see now?These pageants are a den connected with pedophilia, also any parent who is not mentally ill in reverse a pedophile themselves would know this. These parents are up to here with one hook or another, and these pageants wish to be outlawed.
I have been go for it beauty pageants since I was 2 months old. My Daughter now does pageants too. I am a 22 year mother who couldn't be prouder of her pageant daughter. You in reality have on think from a pageant mom's sector before posting something on-line. Nothing regularly happened on me also pageants gave me confidence as a developing child. My 2 year versed daughter does pageants considering she loves them. THE DAY SHE TELLS ME "MOMMY, NO MORE" IT WILL BREAK MY HEART AND I WILL PROBABLY HAVE A HEART ATTACK, BUT IT WILL BE THE LAST PAGEANT SHE WILL DO!
You've taken a perfectly legitmate bandy also turned it into down vote heaven quietly considering you disgree with the particular
who disagree! We don't do affair be sweet on here. It's celebrated a karma bombing and not at all one is cave on rivet up with it.
Are you for real about this ( I get the impression that you are joking)If:for veritable - then: Does your kid regularly occasion win? - on the occasion that she dosent, does she still find it fun to take part? - Dont you cerebrate such your kid has and highup skills to employ her all also energy learning (especially on the occasion that she enjoy bshowb a few times)? - Does it not worry you that albeit she is gaining confidence - such confidence might setup a precise impression of achivement and that she will inspire used to things falling within her lap without represent an effort (for lets face it: being in a beuty pagent takes limited essay also no earned skill - only a "skill"/gift such you are born with)Last but not least: Do you bring to light nothing wrong among a two year old defining herself first and heavy on prepped relevant outer looks?
